Sun 22 Oct 2006
This week, as our show lengths continue to spiral out of control, we have:
* Plenty of listener wisdom.
* Television rots your brains, and so does being fat.
* Is it unmanly to pee sitting down?
* Iraq-related fuck-ups.
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October 23rd, 2006 at 8:05 pm
Re: Baby Talk
I’m a single dude and really don’t mind any pregnancy talk or baby-related discussions at all. In fact, I would enjoy them as they are part of your lives as much as the new house, the chicken coop or the M-Audio interface is!
Re: Pee Position
I’ve never known why guys worry about how unmanly it might be to pee sitting down. Are you inviting people in to see? Is there a quiz when you exit the stall or bathroom/loo/w.c. that I’ve been missing out on?
You have to sit to take a shit anyway and often need to urinate in the same session, so do you suddenly hop up and stand when theurge arrives?? No. Duh. From outside, who can tell whether you really needed to sit down or not?
I figure it’s a chance to relax for a minute or two during a busy day and drop your pants, air the boys out etc. Why would a bend at the knees mean you’re less than masculine? Get over it, gents.
The conversation makes me think of George Costanza (Seinfeld) who preferred to strip down when he went to the bathroom.
Re: Iraq Fuckups
Yeah, we’re quite in agreement Zan on matters Iraq-related. I fear that lives are being lost on all sides just because the White House wants to save face and never admit to being wrong. That’s the saddest part for me.
W. and pals operate in pursuit of ideology, maintaining machismo and feelings of righteousness and ignore the facts. They behave this way on many many matters: stem cells, abortion, global warming etc. It is part of a sustained anti-intellectualism that poo-poos thinking and reason that might contradict Red State dogma and interfere with the concentration of power in the White House.
The U.S. isn’t a safer place if the world is more dangerous. The last time the world was any safer was Sept. 11, 2001. The unified front of world nations against terrorists and fanatics was never as great as it was then. Now every fanatic has all they ever wanted to be angry about and more in 2006. Nice goin’ W.
I can’t wait for mid-term elections in a couple weeks… and then it’s on to 2008.
In conclusion, George W. Bush is probably the best example of a guy who probably worries about whether it is unmanly to sit down to pee.
Q.E.D.
October 24th, 2006 at 4:42 am
Alright, now you guys have discussed something I feel very strongly about. I find that there’s no reason to pee standing up. I’ve regularly sat down to pee for a long time, and for 2 main reasons. One, it has the potential to be messy. Findind piss on the seat is disgusting, and though you try to avoid doing it, sometimes it just happens. It’s not worth the risk. Two, it’s noisy. If you’re in a quiet house, depending on how it’s set up, you can definitely hear it from outside the bathroom. And I know if I was outside the bathroom, I wouldn’t want to have to think about urine splashing into the toilet.
On Zan’s night bathroom visits in the dark, we used to have a product advertised here late at night called Johnny Glow, some kind of soft glow night light that lets you see the toilet without waking you up. All I remember is the excellent theme song, from the website. “Johnny Glow works for me / Halleluah, I can see where to pee!”
I was laughing outloud at the stingray attack story. Hilarious. Reminds me of the old recurring Saturday Night Live Weekend Update skit. There’s a knock at the Update door, and the knocker claims to be UPS or pizza delivery. It turns out to be the shark from Jaws, who always eats the news anchor.
October 24th, 2006 at 7:09 am
On Ryan’s second point, I believe this is what he was looking for: “When water falls on water it makes a noise that all can hear, but when water falls on porcelain it falls silent to the ear!”
I saw the “Tournamet of Kings” at the Excalibur in Vegas. It was quite fun and you eat with your hands. I’d recommend it.
http://www.excalibur.com/
Got to go, something’s flopping at my door. [Candygram …]
October 24th, 2006 at 7:46 am
I just checked out the Excalibur site’s entertainment programme, and it featured ‘Thunder from Downunder: Australia’s Hottest Hunks. At night our knights shed their armour.’ Despite the reference to non-existent armour, the relevance to Arthurian legend seemed tenuous, at best.
October 24th, 2006 at 9:02 am
Cornel: I didn’t even know there was saying for that, but I’ve been following it all along!
October 24th, 2006 at 12:26 pm
Ah Zan,
I don’t think you should eat with your hands at that show!
I’m just sayin’ …..
October 24th, 2006 at 4:30 pm
Ah yes, a truly important issue. I am an unabashed sit down pee’r! It started when I had a severe knee injury which required surgery and I was forced to pee sitting down. It is much more convienent and relaxing as others have stated before me. Also, as Ryan said it is MUCH less messy and anything that results in less cleaning just seems smarter to me. I would even go so far as to say that the more civilized man must pee sitting down.
kevin
BTW. I know I don’t post often enough but I await each episode with bated breath. Keep up the good work! Also, congratulations!
October 24th, 2006 at 10:21 pm
On Iraq fuck-ups, this article came out today:
Bush alters course on ’stay the course’
The White House on Monday officially discarded “stay the course” as U.S. policy in Iraq.
White House Press Secretary Tony Snow and presidential counselor Dan Bartlett disclosed the policy change, saying the short-hand description failed to “capture the dynamism” of the flexible U.S. approach to security setbacks on the ground, and the challenges of getting Iraqi authorities to control militias and quell sectarian bloodshed.
You can’t make up comedy gold like that.
The President is “determined not to leave Iraq short of victory,” Snow said. “But he also understands that it’s important to capture the dynamism of the efforts that have been ongoing to try to make Iraq more secure,” using a description that has “greater precision.”
“Bartlett added: “We’re completely changing, in making tactical changes on a week-by-week basis as we respond to the enemy’s reactions to our strategies.”
You have to wonder if, at the end, he’s talking about enemies in Iraq or about their PR campaign. Election Day is coming up fast!
October 25th, 2006 at 9:11 am
A Muslim lady’s face covering with just a slit for the eyes is called a ‘nikab’ or ‘niqab’. A bigger garment that covers from head to toe with just an eye slit is called a ‘burkha’.
The lady in question, Aishah Azmi, showed up for her job interview without a veil even though a man was present throughout. It was only after getting the job at the school that she turned up in her veil. A bit of a double-standard there? I heard her on the radio, and she had quite a forceful personality. I think she could have got through to the kids, even veiled.
The UK is an equal opportunity
discriminator. We also try to stop people wearing crosses:
http://www.richmondandtwickenhamtimes.co.uk/news/localnews/display.var.980742.0.ba_getting_cross_over_crucifix.php
Finally, as Jana said, diversity is a good thing in schools. How I do SO wish my school timetable had been:
9:00 - 11:00 Double Chemistry with Mr Tedi, a native of Papua New Guinea dressed only in a koteka (a gourd penis sheath).
11:00 - 12:00 Dance, with Hawai’ian Miss Kalaheo wearing a grass skirt and a flower lei
12:00 - 1:00 Maths with Mr Shabalala, dressed in his traditional leather and Zulu beadwork apron.
1:00 - 2:00 Lunch
2:00 - 3:00 Spanish, with Miss Madraza in her flamenco dress and heels
3:00 - 4:00 History, with Miss Akiko in a nagajuban silk kimono
4:00 - 5:00 Art with Mr Bequa, dressed in his loin cloth and covered in Fijian tribal tattoos.
Instead of which, I just got a succession of boring old men in suits that smelt vaguely of overcooked cabbage and pipe smoke.
October 25th, 2006 at 9:21 am
Do you think there is a market for a luminous ping-pong ball to be floated in the toilet, so that men peeing at night don’t need to sit down because they are unsure of the target?
And what could it be marketed as? “The Piston”?